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Death: Dec 1879 - Lance Thomas, aged 61, Christchurch 2b 399
1841 Census: Leyland? Street, Poole, Dorset.
William Lance, 65, Joiner, (Not sure if born in Dorset)
Mary Lance, 65, born Dorset
Ebenezer Lance, 30, Joiner, born Dorset
Thomas Lance, 20, Joiner, born Dorset1851 Census: Rusina Cottage, Holdenhurst, Hampshire
John Hibidage, Head, 45, Carpenter & Builder employing 3 men, b. Witchampton, Dorset (c.1806)
Sarah E. Hibidage, Wife, 45, Carpenter's wife, b. Poole, Dorset (c.1806)
Thomas Lance, Son-in-law, 32, Journeyman Carpenter, b. Poole, Dorset (c.1819)
Angelina Fanny Lance, Daur, 24, Wife of above, b. Poole, Dorset (c.1827)1861 Census: 1 Windsor Cottage, Holdenhurst, Dorset
Thomas Lance, Head, Mar, 45, Joiner, b. Poole, Dorset
Fanny Lance, Wife, Mar, 32, b. Scotland
Sarah Snelgar, Niece, Un, 23, Companion, b. Poole, Dorset1871 Census: "Brookside", Exeter Lane, Holdenhurst.
Thomas Lance, Head, 51, Builder, Poole, Dorset. c.1820
Fanny Lance, Wife, 44, Poole, Dorset. c.1827
Lina F. Lance, Daur, 10, London. c.1861
+Servants
Angelina Fanny (Miller) Banger
Angelina Banger
Christening: 26 JAN 1825 St James', Poole, Dorset
Mother: Sarah BangerABODES:
1822/7 ..... Poole, Dorset (birth)
or 1831 ..... Scotland (birth on 1881 census)
1851 ..... Poole Road, Holdenhurst (census)
1871 ..... "Brookside", Exeter Lane, Holdenhurst. (census)
1881 ..... "Brookside", Exeter Lane, Holdenhurst. (census)
NOTE: Brookside is now the large Hermitage Hotel (opposite Bournemouth pier)Marriages Mar 1847
Banger Angelina Miller Poole 8 129
Lance Thomas Poole 8 1291841 Census: Newtown, Poole, Dorset
Frederick OSBORNE, 40, Joiner, b. Dorset
Mary OSBORNE, 40, b. Dorset
Angelina BANGER, 15, Dressmaker's Apprentice, b. Dorset
NOTE: The same page shows Ann Prior (nee Briant) who appears to be a stepmother of Edward Piper. He married Ann Kent Hibdige, whose brother (John Hibidage) married Angelina's mother.1851 Census: Rusina Cottage, Holdenhurst, Hampshire
John Hibidage, Head, 45, Carpenter & Builder employing 3 men, b. Witchampton, Dorset (c.1806)
Sarah E. Hibidage, Wife, 45, Carpenter's wife, b. Poole, Dorset (c.1806)
Thomas Lance, Son-in-law, 32, Journeyman Carpenter, b. Poole, Dorset (c.1819)
Angelina Fanny Lance, Daur, 24, Wife of above, b. Poole, Dorset (c.1827)1861 Census: 1 Windsor Cottage, Holdenhurst, Dorset
Thomas Lance, Head, Mar, 45, Joiner, b. Poole, Dorset
Fanny Lance, Wife, Mar, 32, b. Scotland
Sarah Snelgar, Niece, Un, 23, Companion, b. Poole, Dorset
NOTE: 2 houses previous "Tregonwell Arms" (Possible relative of Sarah Ann Butler)
Elizabeth Butler, Head, Wid, 56, Publican?, b. Boxtead?, Suffolk
Elizabeth Cole, Daur, Un, 22, Barmaid, b. Salisbury, Wiltshire
Martha Butler, Daur, Un, 14, Scholar, b. Christchurch, Hampshire
Ellen Butler, Step-daur, Un, 31, b. Guildford, Surrey
Kate Scoom?, Visitor, Un, 14, Scholar, b. Fordingbridge, Hampshire
Alexander Stiles?, Lodger, Mar, 70, b. Waltham?, Sussex?
The 1851 census shows her husband as George, Innkeeper, 55, b. Christchurch (same address)1871 Census: "Brookside", Exeter Lane, Holdenhurst.
Thomas Lance, Head, 51, Builder, Poole, Dorset. c.1820
Fanny Lance, Wife, 44, Poole, Dorset. c.1827
Lina F. Lance, Daur, 10, London. c.1861
+Servants1881 Census: "Brookside", Holdenhurst.
Angelene LANCE, Head, Wid, 50, b.1831, Scotland.
Lena F. LANCE, Adptd Daur, Un, 20, b.1861, Middlesex.
Sarah C. HIBIDAGE, Mother, Wid, 79, b.1802, Poole, Dorset
Ann ROBERTS, Serv, Wid, 41, b.1840, Brockenhurst, Hants.
Rose HAWKINS, Serv, Un, 23, b.1858, Sandford, Hants.
Charlotte SWEATLAND, Serv, Un, 21, b.1860, Kinson, Dorset.
Annie THOMAS, Serv, Un, 19, b.1862, Portsmouth, Hants.
Anna E. MAJENDIN, Lodger, Un, 58, b.1823, Windlesham, Surrey.
Lucy MENZIES, Visitor, Un, 68, b.1813, Liverpool.
Henrietta M. WEARE, Visitor, Wid, 57, b.1824, Middlesex.
Esther K.C. WEARE, Visitor, Un, 23, b.1858, Westminster.
1841 Census: Leyland? Street, Poole, Dorset.
William Lance, 65, Joiner, (Not sure if born in Dorset)
Mary Lance, 65, born Dorset
Ebenezer Lance, 30, Joiner, born Dorset
Thomas Lance, 20, Joiner, born DorsetWilliam may have had a brother Joseph, possibly born in Portsmoth abt 1786, who married Sarah Cox at St Thomas, Portsmouth in 1811. They had 2 children at Portsmouth, then another seven at Poole, including Edwin, who were christened at the same church as William's children.
1841 Census: Leyland? Street, Poole, Dorset.
William Lance, 65, Joiner, (Not sure if born in Dorset)
Mary Lance, 65, born Dorset
Ebenezer Lance, 30, Joiner, born Dorset
Thomas Lance, 20, Joiner, born Dorset
1841 Census: Leyland? Street, Poole, Dorset.
William Lance, 65, Joiner, (Not sure if born in Dorset)
Mary Lance, 65, born Dorset
Ebenezer Lance, 30, Joiner, born Dorset
Thomas Lance, 20, Joiner, born Dorset
1881 Census: 44 Warwick Street, Leamington Priors, Warwick
William OVERELL, Head, M, 68, Poole, Dorset, Solicitor
Catherine OVERELL, Wife, M, 62, Braunston, Northampton, Solicitors Wife
Albert E. OVERELL, Son, U, 31, Leamington, Warwick, Solicitor
Frank A. SPRIGGE, Other, U, 17, Peterborough, Northampton, Solicitors Articled Clerk
Ann MASON, Servant, U, 21, Avon Dassett, Warwick, Cook Domestic Servant
Mary NEALE, Servant, U, 20, Leamington, Warwick, Housemaid Domestic Servant
Lydia W. OVERELL, Daug, U, 27, Leamington, Warwick, Solicitors Daur1891 Census: 20 Adelaide Road, Leamington, Warwickshire - Parish of All Saints
Albert E Overell, Head, M, 41, Solicitor, Leamington Warwickshire.
Lena J Overell, Wife, M, 29, London
Eric V Overell, Son, 4, Leamington Warwickshire.
Leslie D Overell, Son, 1, Leamington Warwickshire.
Jane Vincent, Servnt, S, 25, Dom Nurse, Birmingham Warwickshire.
Annie Jervis, Servnt, S, 24, Dom Cook, Banbury Oxfordshire.1901 Census: 20 Adelaide Road, Leamington Priors, Warwickshire.
Albert Overell, Head, M, 51, Solicitor, b. Leamington, Warwickshire
Lena Overell, Wife, 35, b. London, Middlesex
Leslie Overell, Son, S, 11, b. Warwickshire Leamington
Ada Fairfield, Serv, S, 30, Lady help (Domestic), b. Solihull, Warwickshire
Evelyn Grubb, Serv, s, 16, General servant, b. Fenny Compton, Warwickshire
Found 17 Jul 2001OVERELL & SWAIN
42 Warwick Street
Leamington Spa
Warwickshire
CV32 5JSTel. 01926-452244
Birth Certificate details:
Name: Angelina Fanny Butler
Born: 5 May 1860 at 8 Cumberland Place, Christchurch, Surrey in Registration district St. Saviour, Surrey.
Father: Thomas Butler (Coppersmith & Journeyman)
Mother: Elizabeth Hannah Butler (formerly Wood)
Informant: Elizabeth H. Butler (signed), Mother, 8 Cumberland Place, Christchurch. 15 June 1860Angelina is reported to be the daughter of Sarah Chaffey Banger's sister.
Her biological father was Thomas Butler (Sarah Ann's Father?) he was a Cooper (Source: Angelina's Wedding cert.)
Possible death of mother:
Death: Jun 1862 - Butler Elizabeth Hannah St Saviour 1d 4An article is in the Times Newspaper under section: Deed Poll; 6 Jun 1881 (d.p.):
A. F. BUTLER to A. F. LANCE of "Brookside", Bournemouth, Hants, England, UK
See: http://www.peterlance.name/lancelineage/assagesurnamegni157.html
Not found in 1861
Checked all 62 pages of District 3, Christchurch, Surrey, but not yet found Cumberland Place1871 Census: "Brookside", Exeter Lane, Holdenhurst.
Thomas Lance, Head, 51, Builder, Poole, Dorset. c.1820
Fanny Lance, Wife, 44, Poole, Dorset. c.1827
Lina F. Lance, Daur, 10, London. c.1861
+Servants1881 Census: "Brookside", Holdenhurst.
Angelene LANCE, Head, Wid, 50, b.1831, Scotland.
Lena F. LANCE, Adptd Daur, Un, 20, b.1861, Middlesex.
Sarah C. HIBIDAGE, Mother, Wid, 79, b.1802, Poole, Dorset
Ann ROBERTS, Serv, Wid, 41, b.1840, Brockenhurst, Hants.
Rose HAWKINS, Serv, Un, 23, b.1858, Sandford, Hants.
Charlotte SWEATLAND, Serv, Un, 21, b.1860, Kinson, Dorset.
Annie THOMAS, Serv, Un, 19, b.1862, Portsmouth, Hants.
Anna E. MAJENDIN, Lodger, Un, 58, b.1823, Windlesham, Surrey.
Lucy MENZIES, Visitor, Un, 68, b.1813, Liverpool.
Henrietta M. WEARE, Visitor, Wid, 57, b.1824, Middlesex.
Esther K.C. WEARE, Visitor, Un, 23, b.1858, Westminster.1891 Census: 20 Adelaide Road, Leamington, Warwickshire - Parish of All Saints
Albert E Overell, Head, M, 41, Solicitor, Leamington Warwickshire.
Lena J Overell, Wife, M, 29, London
Eric V Overell, Son, 4, Leamington Warwickshire.
Leslie D Overell, Son, 1, Leamington Warwickshire.
Jane Vincent, Servnt, S, 25, Dom Nurse, Birmingham Warwickshire.
Annie Jervis, Servnt, S, 24, Dom Cook, Banbury Oxfordshire.1901 Census: 20 Adelaide Road, Leamington Priors, Warwickshire.
Albert Overell, Head, M, 51, Solicitor, b. Leamington, Warwickshire
Lena Overell, Wife, 35, b. London, Middlesex
Leslie Overell, Son, S, 11, b. Warwickshire Leamington
Ada Fairfield, Serv, S, 30, Lady help (Domestic), b. Solihull, Warwickshire
Evelyn Grubb, Serv, s, 16, General servant, b. Fenny Compton, Warwickshire
1891 Census: 20 Adelaide Road, Leamington, Warwickshire - Parish of All Saints
Albert E Overell, Head, M, 41, Solicitor, Leamington Warwickshire.
Lena J Overell, Wife, M, 29, London
Eric V Overell, Son, 4, Leamington Warwickshire.
Leslie D Overell, Son, 1, Leamington Warwickshire.
Jane Vincent, Servnt, S, 25, Dom Nurse, Birmingham Warwickshire.
Annie Jervis, Servnt, S, 24, Dom Cook, Banbury Oxfordshire.
1901 Census: Leamington Priors, Warwickshire.
Albert Overell 51 Warwickshire Leamington Solicitor
Lena Overell 35 Middlesex London (name misspelt Sera)
Leslie Overell 11 Warwickshire Leamington
Births Jun 1887
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Overell Eric Vernon Warwick 6d 589
ABODES .......... Before 1871 (Creek v Butler)
Penge, Surrey.
Married sister of Sarah Chaffey X
Died before 1871 after which his daughter Sarah Ann moved in with John Hibidage.-----------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Butler with spouse TAYLOR
2. Thomas BUTLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Marriage: 30 Jul 1807 Horsmonden, Kent, England5. Thomas BUTLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Marriage: 29 Aug 1858 Old Church, Saint Pancras, London, England8. Thomas BUTLER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: M Marriage: 1808 Of, Brenchley, Kent, England
Elizabeth is reported here, to be a sister of Sarah Chafey Banger, but the Elizabeth referred to appears to be Elizabeth Hannah Wood, who married Thomas Butler at Southampton in 1844. However, this Elizabeth's father was named as Daniel Wood.
Thomas Butler died a few years after their daughter, Sarah Ann Butler was born. This young girl was then taken in by John & Sarah Hibidage. This girl also had a sister, Angelina Fanny Butler, who was adopted by Sarah Hibidage's daughter, Angelina, and given the surname of Lance.This confusion is yet to be resolved.
One theory is that Elizabeth's father, John Banger, died and her mother, Hannah, married Daniel Wood in 1816. See below:
HANNAH BANGER
Spouse: DANIEL WOOD
Marriage: 25 NOV 1816 Stoke Damerel, DevonPossible children:
WILLIAM
Christening: 07 JUN 1818 Saint James, Poole, Dorset
Father: DANIEL WOOD
Mother: HANNAHELIZABETH WOOD
Birth: 28 MAY 1819
Christening: 25 JUL 1819 Saint Mary, Newington, Surrey
Father: DANIEL WOOD
Mother: ANNPossible death: Jun 1862
Butler Elizabeth Hannah Lambeth 1d 193
Butler Elizabeth Hannah St Saviour 1d 4The following data is provided to exclude red herrings:
This Thomas (& Elizabeth) were still living in 1881.
1851 Census: 23 Vine Street, Liberty of Saffron Hill, Finsbury, London
Thomas G. Butler, Head, Mar, 25, Wood cutter, b. St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex
Elizabeth Ann Butler, Wife, Mar, 30, b. St George the Martyr, London, Middlesex
NOTE: St George is 1 mile from Newington, Surrey, and about 3 miles from Clapham1861 Census: 29 Bloomsbury -?, Vauxhall B. Rd, St John the Evangelist, Westminster, Middlesex
Thomas P. Butler, Head, Mar, 29, Clerk commercial, b. St Andrews, Holborn, Middlesex
Ann Butler, Wife, Mar, 29, b. Clerkenwell, London, Middlesex
Paulina A. Butler, Daur, 6, b. St John the Evangelist, Middlesex
NOTE: St George is 1 mile from Clerkenwell1881 Census: 17 Rochester Row, London, Middlesex
Thomas P. BUTLER Head M Male 49 London, Middlesex, England Manager Of Warehouse
Ann BUTLER Wife M Female 49 London, Middlesex, England
Paulina A. BUTLER Dau Female 26 London, Middlesex, England
Charles T.P. BUTLER Son Male 16 London, Middlesex, England Clerk
Alfred KING Visitor Male 27 Stansfield, Suffolk, England Ironmongers Assistant
Letitia J. LARGOOD Servn Female 17 Westminster, Middlesex, England Domestic ServantPaulina's marriage: Free BMD
Marriages Sep 1881
BUTLER Paulina Anne St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 770
KING Alfred St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 770
The following entries are for Elizabeth Hope Butler, and are included to avoid any confusion.1851 Census: Weil? Borough, Wimborne, Dorset
Edmund Butler, Head, Mar, 38, Architect & Surveyor's Clerk, b. Wimborne, Dorset
Elizabeth Hope Butler, Wife, Mar, b. London, Middlesex
Helen Fralk Butler, Daur, Un, 14, b. Wimborne, Dorset
Emily Jeanette Barry Butler, Daur, Un, 10, Scholar at home, b. Wimborne, Dorset
Edward? Davin? Barry Butler, Son, Un, 8, Scholar at home, b. Wimborne, Dorset
Elizabeth Maria Butler, Daur, Un, 6, Scholar at home, b. Wimborne, Dorset
Julia Holden Butler, Daur, Un, 4, Scholar at home, b. Wimborne, Dorset
Jane Meader, Serv, Un, 36, House servant, b. Witchampton, Dorset1881 Census: 4 Dartmouth Terrace, Perry Vale, Forest Hill, Lewisham, Kent
Edward D. BUTLER, Head, U, Male, 32, Whimbourn, Dorset, Chemist & Druggist
Elizabeth H. BUTLER(nee HOOSE?), Mother, W, Female, 63, London, Middlesex
Emily J. B. BUTLER, Sister, U, Female, 40, Whimbourn, Dorset
Julia H. BUTLER, Sister, U, Female, 33, Whimbourn, Dorset
Mary GOLLIDGE, Servant, U, Female, 20, Durham, General Servant
Birth: Sep 1845 - Butler Angelina Elizabeth, W London 2 252
Death: Mar 1860 - Butler Angelina Elizabeth I. Wight 2b 360Extract from: "A descriptive guide to Bournemouth, Christchurch, Wimborne and Corfe Castle, and their interesting features. Bournemouth, T. J. Hankinson, Victoria Library. 1876
Page 49
The inscription is:- ' To the dearly beloved memory of Angelina Elizabeth Butler, who died at Ford House, Newport, IW, March 20th, 1860, aged fourteen years, and was buried in this churchyard.
This window is presented by her uncle, John Hibidage, in token of his lasting and affectionate remembrance.'The eighth window has a figure of St. Matthew, with the sentence— ' From thence He shall come to judge the quick and the dead.' The inscription is :— ' To .....
ABODES:
c.1852 ..... Clapton, Middlesex. (birth - 1871 Census Bournemouth)
1871 ..... 3 Dorset Place, Commercial Road, Bournemouth (1871 Census Bournemouth)Summary of CREEKE v BUTLER (March 1881)
Sarah Ann Butler was the daughter of Sarah Chaffey X's sister. When her father, Thomas Butler, died she was still very young and moved in with John & Sarah Hibidage. After a while she took over the duties previously taken by Angelina, (Sarah Chaffey X's daughter by a previous marriage).
John made his first will in May 1873 leaving £200 to Sarah. He later made several codices to the will. Finally, in December 1879, leaving her 5 houses, including Linwood House, to the value of £7000.
When Angelina's husband, Thomas Lance, died, towards the end of 1879, she moved back with John & Sarah. Very soon after this John became ill.
In January 1880 John appointed Christopher Crabb Creeke and a Miss Elizabeth Banger to make a new will changing his gift to Sarah Ann Butler to just £1000, leaving the rest to his wife & Angelina.
In the court case witnesses were called to check the signatures. Miss Banger and other witnesses said that Sarah, who also helped John with his book keeping, caused disagreements between John & Sarah.
The jury decided that the latest will made on 4th February 1880 was genuine.
1871 Census: 3 Dorset Place, Commercial Road, Holdenhurst (Bournemouth?), Hampshire
John Hibidage, Head, 66, Builder Employing 30 men and 4 boys, Witchampton, Dorset. c.1805
Sarah Hibidage, Wife, 65, Poole, Dorset. c.1806
Sarah Ann Butler, Niece, 19, Clapton, Middlesex. c.1852
Free BMD: (Just a wild guess but her sister was living in Leamington, Warwickshire)
Deaths Jun 1895
Butler Sarah Ann; aged 48; 6d 352
1891 Census: Village Street, Boldre, Hampshire
George Phillips, Head, Mar, 30, Farm Labourer, b. Boldre, Hampshire
Elizabeth Phillips, Wife, Mar, 23, b. Boldre, Hampshire
James Frederick Phillips, Son, Un, 5 months, b. Boldre, Hampshire1901 Census: Rowe Lane, East Boldre, Hampshire
George Phillips, Head, Mar, 40, Fisherman, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Elizabeth Phillips, Wife, Mar, 38, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
James Phillips, Son, Un, 10, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
George Phillips, Son, Un, 8, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
May Phillips, Daur, Un, 6, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Charles Phillips, Son, Un, 4, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Frederick Phillips, Son, Un, 1, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Thought to have lived in Lymington.
Her birth was registered Jun qtr 1866 on Isle of Wight, but census records show her born in the New Forset.
1871 Census: (Gipsies) near Cowleaze, Denny Lodge, Hampshire
Ann Pidgeley Abt 33, widow, Cane Chair Mender, b. New Forest, Hampshire
Mary Ann Pidgeley, Daur, 10, b. New Forest, Hampshire
Elizabeth Pidgeley, Daur, 4, b. New Forest, Hampshire
Olive Pidgeley, Daur, 1, b. New Forest, Hampshire1891 Census: Village Street, Boldre, Hampshire
George Phillips, Head, Mar, 30, Farm Labourer, b. Boldre, Hampshire
Elizabeth Phillips, Wife, Mar, 23, b. Boldre, Hampshire
James Frederick Phillips, Son, Un, 5 months, b. Boldre, Hampshire1901 Census: Rowe Lane, East Boldre, Hampshire
George Phillips, Head, Mar, 40, Fisherman, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Elizabeth Phillips, Wife, Mar, 38, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
James Phillips, Son, Un, 10, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
George Phillips, Son, Un, 8, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
May Phillips, Daur, Un, 6, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Charles Phillips, Son, Un, 4, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Frederick Phillips, Son, Un, 1, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
1891 Census: Village Street, Boldre, Hampshire
George Phillips, Head, Mar, 30, Farm Labourer, b. Boldre, Hampshire
Elizabeth Phillips, Wife, Mar, 23, b. Boldre, Hampshire
James Frederick Phillips, Son, Un, 5 months, b. Boldre, Hampshire1901 Census: Rowe Lane, East Boldre, Hampshire
George Phillips, Head, Mar, 40, Fisherman, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Elizabeth Phillips, Wife, Mar, 38, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
James Phillips, Son, Un, 10, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
George Phillips, Son, Un, 8, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
May Phillips, Daur, Un, 6, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Charles Phillips, Son, Un, 4, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Frederick Phillips, Son, Un, 1, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
1901 Census: Rowe Lane, East Boldre, Hampshire
George Phillips, Head, Mar, 40, Fisherman, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Elizabeth Phillips, Wife, Mar, 38, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
James Phillips, Son, Un, 10, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
George Phillips, Son, Un, 8, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
May Phillips, Daur, Un, 6, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Charles Phillips, Son, Un, 4, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Frederick Phillips, Son, Un, 1, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
1901 Census: Rowe Lane, East Boldre, Hampshire
George Phillips, Head, Mar, 40, Fisherman, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Elizabeth Phillips, Wife, Mar, 38, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
James Phillips, Son, Un, 10, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
George Phillips, Son, Un, 8, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
May Phillips, Daur, Un, 6, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Charles Phillips, Son, Un, 4, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Frederick Phillips, Son, Un, 1, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
1901 Census: Rowe Lane, East Boldre, Hampshire
George Phillips, Head, Mar, 40, Fisherman, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Elizabeth Phillips, Wife, Mar, 38, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
James Phillips, Son, Un, 10, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
George Phillips, Son, Un, 8, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
May Phillips, Daur, Un, 6, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Charles Phillips, Son, Un, 4, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Frederick Phillips, Son, Un, 1, b. East Boldre, Hampshire
Robert's ancestry has been traced to Henry Kittier c.1630 - See LDS
1861 Census: Beaulieu Rails, East Boldre, Hampshire
Robert Kitcher, Head, Mar, 51, Farmer of 2 acres, b. Fawley, Hampshire
Mary Kitcher, Wife, Mar, 49, b. Boldre, Hampshire
Charles Kitcher, Son, Un, 24, Farm Labourer, b. Fawley, Hampshire
Edw Kitcher, Son, Un, 20, Farm Labourer, b. Boldre, Hampshire
James Kitcher, Son, Un, 19, At Home, b. Boldre, Hampshire
Frank Kitcher, Son, Un, 16, Carter at a mill, b. Boldre, Hampshire
Oliver Kitcher, Son, Un, 14, Labourer at home Farmboy?, b. Boldre, Hampshire
Henry Kitcher, Son, Un, 11, Boy at home Farmboy?, b. Boldre, Hampshire
ABODES .......... 1961? (Dennis's death)
The Birches, St. John's Road, Hedge End.
Dorothy was an active member of various Church organisationsand the Mother's Union.
A letter from Dorothy Gibson/Heath (a great granddaughter of Mary Ann Smith/Pidgley/Kilcher, to Dorothy Bayford/Harris who shares the same great grandparents.Dear Dorothy, A few details for you - at last! I haven't given up yet! As soon as winter is over, and the weather improves, I'm hoping to make a trip to a church in the New Forest to find out if it is true that our maternal great step grandfather is buried there. My mother always said that her mother was born on the Isle of Wight. Her father William Pidgley, was lost at sea. Her mother remarried a George Kitcher and moved to a farm in the New Forest. There were at least 3 daughters of the Pidgley family I knew aunt Lizzie whose married name was Phillips and lived at Lymington. There was also, I believe, a sister called Rose of whom I know nothing. Some of the family lived in the Stockbridge area. I know nothing of the Kitcher family except that he was a heavy drinker. This old lady rode horses and had commoners rights of grazing cattle in the New Forest. She lived to be quite old, apparently her second husband had a riding accident and was an invalid for some time before he died.
I once wrote to Binstead on the Isle of Wight but there were no records of the family there and we could find nothing in the Bishops Transcripts at the Records Office. I suppose I could write to the Admiralty as William Pidgley was a seaman.
Hope you are all well, we are not too bad! Weather has been very bad but so far we have escaped flu!! I've been having treatment for high blood pressure since a toe operation last August - which is a nuisance!
All the best to you all from Dorothy and family.
At Denny Lodge, Hampshire, UK
Died in motorbike accident in Binbrook, Lincs. 11 Jan 1961?
Dennis, who was 21, attended Hedge End Primary School and County School until he was 17 and then entered the R.A.F. School at Cosford, Wolverhampton, and trained as a radar mechanic. He was posted to 64 Squadron R.A.F. at Duxford and after a
short spell of duty in Cyprus returned to Lincolnshire.Before entering the R.A.F. Dennis was a member of the A.T.C. and cycled from Hedge End to Bishops Waltham every week for meetings. He was keen on model aircraft and while at Hedge End Secondary School was a member of the Field Club and was
very keen on hiking.See Death Notice for list of Mourners.
***************************************************************Robin's notes:
Death notice taken from the local newspaper: (I think the year was 1961)
Airman's Death - Much sympathy has been extended to Mr and Mrs F.G. Gibson and Michael, of The Birches, St John's Road, Hedge End in the loss they have sustained by the tragic death of their eldest son and brother Senior Aircraftman Dennis Robert Gibson, who died at Binbrook, Lincs, on January 11, as the result of a motor-cycle accident.
Dennis, who was 21, attended Hedge End Primary School and County Secondary School until he was 17 and then entered the R.A.F. School at Cosford, Wolverhampton, and trained as a radar mechanic. He was posted to 64 Squadron R.A.F. at Duxford and after a short spell of duty in Cyprus returned to Lincolnshire. Before entering the Royal Air Force Dennis was a member of the Air Training Corps and cycled from Hedge End to Bishop's Waltham every week for meetings. He was keen on model aircraft and while at the Hedge End Secondary School was a member of the Field Club and very keen on hiking. The funeral service held at St John's Church, Hedge End on Thursday was followed by cremation at South Stoneham and the ashes were interred at Hedge End Cemetery the following day. The Reverend M. Spencer Underhill (Vicar of Hedge End) officiated, Mrs Pembry was the organist. Chief mourners were Mr and Mrs Fred Gibson (parents), Mr Michael Gibson (brother), Mr and Mrs W. Gibson, Mrs A.E. Gibson (also representing Mr A.E. Gibson), Mr and Mra Reg Gibson also representing Mrs R. Gibson senior (grandmother), Mr Ron Gibson also representing Mrs Ron Gibson, Mr and Mrs W. Heath, Mr and Mrs L. Heath, Mrs Such also representing Mr E. Such and Miss J. Lewry, Mrs C. Holland (also representing Mr C. Holland) (aunts and uncles); Miss Hazel Gibson and Mr Raymond Gibson (cousins). 64 squadron R.A.F. Binbrook, Lincs. was represented by Flight Lieut Sandeman and S.A.C's Collinette, Crane, Mardin and Offord. Dennis's mother is an active member of various Church organisations and the Mother's Union was represented by Mrs Rowe. Mrs D. Barnett and Mrs Edmunds and the St John's Ladies Guild by Mrs E. Smith. Other friends present included Mrs Burgess, Mrs C. Lewry, Mrs G. Hales, Mrs B. Phillips, Mr P. Phillips, Mr C. Watts, Mrs Balson, Mr Eval, and Mr J. Barker.